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Ignorance of Others' Beliefs by toadking07 Ignorance of Others' Beliefs by toadking07
"Flame War On!"

Ok no wait, hold on. I got the idea for this after seeing this poster [link] so this is just the counter arguments of opposite sides brought together.

Anyways, I'm not going to debate my beliefs against yours, that'd be silly. Here's what I got; If you don't like it, leave. Your belief is yours and mine are mine for our own reasons. The two are brought together here to show that everything can be generalized and explain in a misunderstood way.

No that's not exactly what Atheists believe and No that's exactly what Christians believe.


I need to spell it out that I know this isn't exactly what atheists believe, or at least how they would state it. This is the Atheist version of a similarly fashion poster I saw about Christianity. This isn't made to bash Atheists, it's to put the shoe on the other foot and go against people who generalize and mock the beliefs of others.
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ericonthego Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
The CotFSM is by definition a theistic religion (though the FSM does not care how much or even if you believe...so everyone is welcome to literally believe as much or as little as they like).  Complete lack of dogma means that atheist are welcomed, but Pastafarianism is NOT atheistic or the same as Atheism  
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
It was complete entropy. And yes, so called entity starts existing from non-entity.
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
Wow... You have quite the sense of humor
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner May 9, 2014   Writer
I am too amused to bother being offended. Good job, person. Keep it up. 
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kyrtuck Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
There are some Christians who don't make Jesus' divinity a priority, and instead just focus on his teachings.

My family's that way anyways.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner May 5, 2014
Let's see here. The atheist lampooning of christian belief is actually pretty accurate- comically put, but not wrong. Conversely, the other one got everything wrong. So this poster isn't really doing what it tries to be doing- show both as equally misunderstanding the other. 
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nnnn11112 Featured By Owner May 4, 2014
Atheism DOES NOT EQUAL Big bang theory 
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KGB-101 Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
There is no 'belief' in Atheism. 
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Oh, komissar, don't think about it, you're in internet, NEVER THINK!
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The truth is always somewhere in between. That's why I'm an agnostic
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Good point
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ComradeSch Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Atheism is the position whereupon one rejects religious claims, not that "nothing created everything" or any of that nonsense (in fact, that's what religion teaches- That the god(s) that created the universe made everything pop into existence).

Literally all it means when someone identifies as an atheist is "I don't believe in a god or gods".
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Kniletiah Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
Well, at least you found a way to feel superior to both.
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PIDKID Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
well i believe god created the big bang so both of the above is wrong there wasn't nothing up in space there was matter and anti matter a very volatile cocktail if both are mixed which happened with a little help from god so you could say god was a scientist and we are the outcome of his experiment lol
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Big-K-2011 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Christians believe that some invisible being created everything and some dead guy who can come alive like a zombie is a savior (despite the fact that their ideas promotes the ideas of peace, love and happiness).
Atheist believe in a bullshit theory that we came some animal and that the universe was made by an unknown explosion from no where (even though there are pretty good evidence that shows us it is true, think butterflies).

Seriously Christians and Atheist, YOUR IDEAS ARE GREAT, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THEM IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING IT LOOK STUPID BY THE WAY YOU ALL ARGUE!
A fictional comic book can make people enlighten with both religion and science, and not go off tangent with their goals by making pointless argument over who has the bigger dick.
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
You're lost, but i'm not nazi to show your way. Everything is nothing, all hail nihilism!
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional General Artist
And you didn't even favorite it..
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Big-K-2011 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Oops, sorry about that; I didn't know we have to favorite first before commenting.

I am going to do it right now, since it is all so true.
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DarkenedKrystal Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2011
Agreed.
Both groups are full of idiots.
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2011  Professional General Artist
It takes all kinds. And the rest just keep on annoying us..
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Everybody is idiot expect you! YOU're best, prettiest, smartest than anyone else, now give me a hamburger.
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cocomooluvr Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2010
OH GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
People got to learn to learn about the other side more. :)
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TheSunSerpent47 Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2010
I believe in God for the record, and I think it's right for people to have their own beliefs as long as it makes sense to themselves. I believe because I don't believe we came " all of a sudden" and the fact that there was nothing before then I just can't accept that. Getting back to the poster, I like it.
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thank you very much, I like to think it's got a good message behind it and I'm not the only one who thinks so. :)
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ShadowSakuraChan Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2010  Hobbyist
I'm an Atheist and all, but the 'Big Bang' is almost as unbelievable to me as the Bible is.

Honestly, I just sorta go with the 'ignorance is bliss' theory. It's worked out well for the past couple of years. =D
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warriorsofskaro1010 Featured By Owner May 28, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
At least you don't make fun of people with religion. You are a good Woman!
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2010  Professional General Artist
Yeah, people got to go with what they believe, what they know and realize not everyone sees things the way they do.
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WILIZIN Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I find Both to be hilarious.
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
:D
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woodgrave Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Who says all Atheists have adopted this particular alternative to creation?

We simply reject the belief in any gods. I, as an Atheist, do not claim to KNOW how everything got started. Christians, however, claim that they KNOW that their god created everything. Atheists, for the most part, simply reject that idea and claim that we do not know how everything started. We are still studying and researching, always learning more, but we definitely do not believe in talking snakes, talking bushes, the long dead rising, and the rest of the supernatural in the Christian bible.
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3892 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013
What about Buddhism or Jainism?
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2010  Professional General Artist
It's about understanding that we generalize the other side too much and we don't really know them as well as we think they do.

This isn't about proving who has 1up over the other one here.

I'm a Christian, and I believe there is a God. I don't think this is what Atheists really believe, it's an ignorant and generalized version, like the one mirroring it. I do not claim to know everything there is to know, about my God, how he acts and how things are, but I believe there is a God out there, which is something beyond true human comprehension. I do believe God created everything, but how he went about that is not so set in stone for me as it is for some other Christians.
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woodgrave Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You say that the Christian view is also "an ignorant and generalized version"? I mean this with no sarcasm, but doesn't it sound pretty dead on to what the Christians believe? They believe that a snake LITERALLY talked Eve into biting the apple, they believe that they will LITERALLY live forever in a blissful heaven, they believe that the tree in Eden LITERALLY was magical (call it mystic, call it whatever you want, it was magical), etc. You state Atheists' beliefs in an outlandish manner and they sound outlandish. But when you state Christians' beliefs in an outlandish manner, they sound really close to the bible's depictions. What does that mean?
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2010  Professional General Artist
*facepalm*

You are becoming an example of what I'm talking about, just so you know. Yes, there are those Christians that believe the bible down to the last word, there are even some nutty Christians who believe that dinosaur bones were put here on earth by God as a way to test people. (I'll be the first to say they are ridiculous)

But they are not the only Christians out there, and their opinions are not the same as the majority of Christians. I believe that parts of the Old Testament are more story based on fact, and not just play by play of what happened. I mean, I believe that time means nothing to God. A day is like a second, a second is like a hundred years, so why and how would he make the world in 7 days when there wasn't even a moon or sun for the first few? I believe the story is vastly simplified so it'd be easier to explain to the people of that time. Could you explain evolution to shepherds and farmers back then? Probably not.

I think the biggest problem is that there are so many different denominations of the Christian faith, and people just group them all together with the loudest and the craziest.
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ADigitalArtist Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm an atheist, and I agree. It's called setting up a strawman. To misrepresent beliefs or their component parts so it's easier to dismiss. There's far more constructive ways of addressing differences.
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toadking07 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2010  Professional General Artist
:nod: yep, yep, that's what I'm all about. People don't understand another person's view. It's hard because you came to yours on your own, and sometimes you can't understand why anyone would see things differently. That and there's all that stereotyping out there. It's no good no good.
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxX Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm Christian, and I find this hilarious.
Also, God is so a woman.
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LucifericChrist Featured By Owner May 18, 2013
The bible is said to be the written word of god. So if god is a woman then why is the bible so mean to women? Women could be raped and forced into marriage for 50 pieces of silver. Have a hand cut off. Stoned to death. Killed if not virgins Not allowed to speak in church. Can not teach men. I don't know how it all began. What if it never did begin but just always was. Questioning and theory is still better then not questioning and saying god did it.
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxX Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The bible is the human version of God's word, passed down from word of mouth in a lot of the cases.
There are thousands of books of the bible not included, and it's translated from hebrew to latin to english and has been heavily edited by the catholic church.
There's also the whole new testament versus old testament thing.
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LucifericChrist Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
Still old or new testament. Edited or not. God is a dictator. You must love him more then your family or friends. #1 commandment "You shall have no other gods before me."
#3 Don't take the lord's name in vain.(don't speak against him)
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxX Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The catholic church is a dictator, mate.
You're completely ignoring the fact that not all christians take the bible literally.
In any case-
When humanity took the fruit, we took something neither angels nor dæmons have. We have free will, which is why we have things such as differing religions, advancement of technology, and imagination.
The first commandment is telling you to not to worship other gods, such as the greek ones, etc. Humanity is nothing like deity.
Don't use his name as curse.
There's actually no testament for speaking against him- don't take his name in vain means you don't use the name as a curse, not that you can't speak freely.
There's also a great deal of division in Christianity as to the hows and whats of heaven.
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LucifericChrist Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013
If you are saying the bible isn't ment to be taken literally then I agree. Greek gods are no different then any other God. For man made god in their image. Christianity has taken the pagan gods and holidays and changed them into stories of christ. Christ like all pagan gods is the sun. The following are the characteristics of the "Sun of God"
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the Sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin."
The Sun is the "Light of the World."
The Sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him."
The Sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind."
The Sun wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo.
The Sun "walks on water."
The Sun's "followers," "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the Sun must pass.
The Sun at 12:00 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High"; thus, "he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The Sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The Sun is hung on a cross or "crucified," which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The Egyptian Pharaohs also identified themselves in life with the Sun god Horus and in death with his father Osiris. These myths identified the Pharaoh as both the earthly form of the royal falcon god who triumphed over his enemies and the pious son who claims the throne after the death of his father. Whilst Osiris ruled the dead in the underworld, Horus ruled the living. Horus and Osiris, just like Jesus, became interchangeable in the mythos ("I and my Father are one"). Horus, who predates the Christ by 3000 years shared the following in common with him.

Horus was called "Iusa/Iao/Iesu/Iusha" the "KRST," with Iusha even contributing to the name of Jesus which in Hebrew of course is Yeshua (Iusha). In the Old Testament, it is Joshua (Iusha) son of Jacob.
Horus became born of the virgin Isis-Meri (Mary) on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph").
He was of royal descent.
At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.
Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated.
He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").
He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead.
Horus walked on water.
His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."
He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."
Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.
He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God’s Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc.
He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion.
He came to fulfill the Law.
Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One."
Horus's principal enemy was "Set" (biblical Seth) or "Sata" (Satan) Set represents the Serpent of the Night. Horus is the Golden Sun (Son) it becomes the struggle between day and night for supremacy.
Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years."
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxX Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
TL:DR.
Basically, you were saying bible=ripping off other old legends?
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LucifericChrist Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013
Yes, that's what I was saying. Also that the Sun is earth's god.

"It doesn't punish, it doesn't reward, it doesn't judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while."
George Carlin
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